Pretty nice interview here with Larry Arnn, Hillsdale College president, on Abraham Lincoln and the Gettysburg/Vicksburg battles that turned the war, in early July.
It's the July 5 "Hillsdale Dialogues" edition.
A highlight at 19:30-21:10 is Lincoln's skillful debating with Douglas.
Apologies to my southern friends who think Lincoln was evil.
You will NOT like this.