When the women go to anoint Jesus' body right after the Sabbath, they are shocked to find it gone. They go tell the disciples that the Jews or Romans (or grave robbers?) took His body. Peter and John run to investigate and find the linen cloth still there and the head piece folded neatly. It can't be robbers. John is convinced He's alive, but Peter isn't sure, and they go home. Mary stays and sees angels over the bier in the same position as the ark. They ask why she is weeping, and Jesus appears. She still doesn't recognize Him until He says her name.
That night He appears to the disciples and gives them a (fore?)taste of the Spirit. Thomas wasn't there and won't believe it until he sees it for himself. Jesus gives him what he asks but blesses those who follow who don't make his demand.
Application
Jesus really was alive and out of the tomb after His crucifixion and burial.
We are slow to believe good things God does for us, because He likes to go beyond the usual way of doing things.
We must not insist on first hand experience to believe the apostles' witness.
6.13.2015
Proverbs 12
24 Verse 24: "The hand of the diligent will rule,
while the slothful will be put to forced labor."
The righteous and hard working can govern themselves, but the wicked need to be put to work.
25
Verse 25: "Anxiety in a man's heart weighs him down,
but a good word makes him glad."
Words can encourage and inspire us out of fear and depression.
while the slothful will be put to forced labor."
The righteous and hard working can govern themselves, but the wicked need to be put to work.
25
Verse 25: "Anxiety in a man's heart weighs him down,
but a good word makes him glad."
Words can encourage and inspire us out of fear and depression.
Proverbs 11
Verse 24 - "there is one who scatters, yet increases more;
And there is one who withholds more than is right, but it leads to poverty."
Generosity brings more wealth, not less.
Jesus gives at the cross and receives more honor than before (Philippians 2:9-10).
Frugality taken too far is not right.
Verse 23 - "the desire of the righteous is only good,
But the expectation of the wicked is wrath."
What do we look ahead to the future for? The good pursue holiness while the bad wait for the other shoe to drop.
Jesus endured the cross for the joy set before Him (Hebrews 12:2).
And there is one who withholds more than is right, but it leads to poverty."
Generosity brings more wealth, not less.
Jesus gives at the cross and receives more honor than before (Philippians 2:9-10).
Frugality taken too far is not right.
Verse 23 - "the desire of the righteous is only good,
But the expectation of the wicked is wrath."
What do we look ahead to the future for? The good pursue holiness while the bad wait for the other shoe to drop.
Jesus endured the cross for the joy set before Him (Hebrews 12:2).
6.11.2015
John 19 - Jesus' death - clearing up contradictions
Pilate flogs Jesus, hoping this will satisfy the Jewish leaders, but they turn up the pressure in two ways. First they point out that Jesus called Himself the Son of God, a title reserved for the Roman Emperor. Second, they accuse Pilate of being against Caesar if he releases Jesus. It was Friday at the 6th hour that Pilate condemned Jesus. He is crucified near the city with a sign in 3 languages that He is the King of the Jews.
Soldiers gamble for His clothes, according to prophecy (Psalm 22:18).
Jesus tells John to care for Mary, giving the disciples primacy over His biological family.
They way the soldiers confirm His death also fulfills Passover and prophecy (Exodus 12:46; Zechariah 12:10).
Joseph and Nicodemus, two men of means and prominence, hastily anoint and bury Jesus before the Sabbath begins.
A supposed contradiction
Soldiers gamble for His clothes, according to prophecy (Psalm 22:18).
Jesus tells John to care for Mary, giving the disciples primacy over His biological family.
They way the soldiers confirm His death also fulfills Passover and prophecy (Exodus 12:46; Zechariah 12:10).
Joseph and Nicodemus, two men of means and prominence, hastily anoint and bury Jesus before the Sabbath begins.
A supposed contradiction
Mark 15:25 says Jesus was crucified at the 3rd hour, but John says in 19:14 that it was the 6th hour when Pilate condemned Him. What gives?
The usual answer is that John was counting by Roman time, starting at midnight, making the 6th hour 6 a.m., while Mark is counting by Jewish custom, starting at sunrise, making the 3rd hour 9 a.m. This has some credence, when we see in John 20:19 that John counts the evening of a day our way as part of the same day, instead of the Jewish way as the beginning of the next day.
Another possibility is that they are using the same calendar, but an "hour" referred to a watch, a span of time. The 3rd hour was 3 hours after sunrise, but covers the time until noon. They didn't refer to hour four and a half, only 3rd or 6th, depending if it was closer to mid-morning or to noon. Since John says it's about the 6th hour, it could easily have been 10:30 or 11 a.m., and Mark was also right to say it was the 3rd hour. This isn't as satisfactory as the first option, but it's legit. Our modern need for precision is our problem, not the text's.
Another possibility is that they are using the same calendar, but an "hour" referred to a watch, a span of time. The 3rd hour was 3 hours after sunrise, but covers the time until noon. They didn't refer to hour four and a half, only 3rd or 6th, depending if it was closer to mid-morning or to noon. Since John says it's about the 6th hour, it could easily have been 10:30 or 11 a.m., and Mark was also right to say it was the 3rd hour. This isn't as satisfactory as the first option, but it's legit. Our modern need for precision is our problem, not the text's.
6.10.2015
Wisdom on Homosexuality
Does the Christian church accept and welcome gays, or hate them?
This question requires a key distinction clarified well here.
Why the big push for same-sex marriage?
David Murray says it's about "silencing gay consciences," a la Romans 1:18.
Yup.
This question requires a key distinction clarified well here.
Why the big push for same-sex marriage?
David Murray says it's about "silencing gay consciences," a la Romans 1:18.
Yup.
North, Or Be Eaten!
North! or Be Eaten by Andrew PetersonMy rating: 4 of 5 stars
Part 2 of Peterson's trilogy on the Igiby children.
In part 1 Peterson tries too hard to be off the wall and fantastical. It got in the way of the story often. That continues somewhat in part two, introducing new characters and creatures at break-neck pace, for instance. But it isn't as bad, and the plot gets way more compelling. I'm glad I stuck with it.
There are several biblical echoes in the plot and character development: death and resurrection, Messiah figures, exile, restoring kingdoms, etc.
Recurring themes: dealing with frustration with siblings, protecting those you love, courage in hard times, consequences for past failings, extending forgiveness and kindness.
The Podo character is magnetic.
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1 Kings 3-4; Proverbs 10
3
Solomon marries an Egyptian princess. He loves God, but is sacrificing at high places, since no temple is built yet.
God appears to him and tells him to ask for anything he wants. He asks for wisdom to rule well, using language recalling Adam's rule (3:9; Genesis 3:22). God is pleased and gives it, and riches and honor, too. This is shown in the story of the two roommate prostitutes who each argue the living child is theirs and the dead child is the other's. Solomon threatens death for the living child, to draw out the mercenary spirit in one of them.
4
Solomon's administration is laid out. His 12 officials don't seem to fall along strictly tribal lines, and his prime minister is unnamed (4:19b)!
His dominion is from the Euphrates to Egypt; his budget is huge; Israel has peace and prosperity.
Solomon was a philosopher, singer, botanist, biologist - everything Adam was supposed to be (except sinless).
Proverbs 10
Whoever walks in integrity walks securely, but he who makes his ways crooked will be found out - 9.
Hatred stirs up strife, but love covers all offenses - vs 12.
Doing wrong is like a joke to a fool, but wisdom is pleasure to a man of understanding - vs 23.
How this is about Jesus
3 - He also shows wisdom in dealing with hard cases
4 - His kingdom is from sea to sea. He is what Adam was supposed to be, and more.
Application
Our desire should be to serve others well. THis was at the heart of Solomon's request.
The goal of government should be to let each one sit in safety under his own vine and fig tree (4:25).
Solomon marries an Egyptian princess. He loves God, but is sacrificing at high places, since no temple is built yet.
God appears to him and tells him to ask for anything he wants. He asks for wisdom to rule well, using language recalling Adam's rule (3:9; Genesis 3:22). God is pleased and gives it, and riches and honor, too. This is shown in the story of the two roommate prostitutes who each argue the living child is theirs and the dead child is the other's. Solomon threatens death for the living child, to draw out the mercenary spirit in one of them.
4
Solomon's administration is laid out. His 12 officials don't seem to fall along strictly tribal lines, and his prime minister is unnamed (4:19b)!
His dominion is from the Euphrates to Egypt; his budget is huge; Israel has peace and prosperity.
Solomon was a philosopher, singer, botanist, biologist - everything Adam was supposed to be (except sinless).
Proverbs 10
Whoever walks in integrity walks securely, but he who makes his ways crooked will be found out - 9.
Hatred stirs up strife, but love covers all offenses - vs 12.
Doing wrong is like a joke to a fool, but wisdom is pleasure to a man of understanding - vs 23.
How this is about Jesus
3 - He also shows wisdom in dealing with hard cases
4 - His kingdom is from sea to sea. He is what Adam was supposed to be, and more.
Application
Our desire should be to serve others well. THis was at the heart of Solomon's request.
The goal of government should be to let each one sit in safety under his own vine and fig tree (4:25).
Prove It!
Chapter 31 - Justifying Claims to Knowledge
Knowledge is a belief that conforms to fact, based on good reasons. Though the certainty of good reasons has eroded recently, it still stands, "anchored in divine revelation" (732). The point of Scripture is to provide us with reasons to believe God and His Son Jesus.
We justify our beliefs by appealing to standards (normative point of triangle), facts (situational point), or persuasion (existential point). This is similar to rationalism, empiricism and subjectivism. But anchored in Christian revelation these converge instead of contradict each other.
Normative justification of belief
We appeal to laws of logic, but for the Christian our ultimate appeal is to Scripture. We also justify this bias using Scripture itself, for "it would be contradictory to try to justify an ultimate by appealing to something supposedly higher" (734). If this is circular, everyone has this problem, since those who appeal to other ultimate standards like reason need to justify reason by reason itself.
For an argument to justify belief, it must be valid, sound and persuasive.
Valid means laws of logic aren't broken (normative perspective).
Sound means the premises are true (situational perspective).
Persuasive means people will consent to the conclusion (subjective perspective).
Notice, we can't isolate one perspective from others. To talk about a belief being justified by standards of human thought (normative), at some point we bring in facts and persuasion, the other perspectives, too. Especially when we get stuck at contradictory assumptions, we don't just keep appealing to the standard (something I've seen too many brash Van Til apologists try), but broaden the argument to include evidences and appeal to the Gospel generally.
Situational justification of belief
If our belief accords with the facts, it is true. These are evidences. Such facts are not independent of God, rather He controls them. So we shouldn't claim a neutral position as we list evidences, but have to assume the truth of Scripture during an appeal to such facts. That said, it is legitimate and needed to use them.
Existential justification of belief
Are we persuaded that our belief is true? All knowledge has this subjective side, since there is always a knower. Persuasion brings cognitive rest, a satisfaction knowing the argument and facts are sound and true. The Holy Spirit does this within us, especially when He regenerates us and we accept the Gospel as true. Also in our maturity - we often prove what is true as the Spirit helps us live holy lives (Romans 12:1-2; Ephesians 5:8-10; Philippians 1:9-10). Many times theological disputes go awry partly because of spiritual immaturity. This work of the Spirit is not a new revelation, but confirms revelation already given. We learn to see the truth of the Word as applied to us, instead of rationalizing sin away or distorting facts for our own interests. This maturity has a social aspect. As the Church we are growing up into Christ (Eph. 4:13-16). This is neither "groupthink" nor independent thought, but thinking and working together as a team, suffering and rejoicing together.
Normative justification of belief
We appeal to laws of logic, but for the Christian our ultimate appeal is to Scripture. We also justify this bias using Scripture itself, for "it would be contradictory to try to justify an ultimate by appealing to something supposedly higher" (734). If this is circular, everyone has this problem, since those who appeal to other ultimate standards like reason need to justify reason by reason itself.
For an argument to justify belief, it must be valid, sound and persuasive.
Valid means laws of logic aren't broken (normative perspective).
Sound means the premises are true (situational perspective).
Persuasive means people will consent to the conclusion (subjective perspective).
Notice, we can't isolate one perspective from others. To talk about a belief being justified by standards of human thought (normative), at some point we bring in facts and persuasion, the other perspectives, too. Especially when we get stuck at contradictory assumptions, we don't just keep appealing to the standard (something I've seen too many brash Van Til apologists try), but broaden the argument to include evidences and appeal to the Gospel generally.
Situational justification of belief
If our belief accords with the facts, it is true. These are evidences. Such facts are not independent of God, rather He controls them. So we shouldn't claim a neutral position as we list evidences, but have to assume the truth of Scripture during an appeal to such facts. That said, it is legitimate and needed to use them.
Existential justification of belief
Are we persuaded that our belief is true? All knowledge has this subjective side, since there is always a knower. Persuasion brings cognitive rest, a satisfaction knowing the argument and facts are sound and true. The Holy Spirit does this within us, especially when He regenerates us and we accept the Gospel as true. Also in our maturity - we often prove what is true as the Spirit helps us live holy lives (Romans 12:1-2; Ephesians 5:8-10; Philippians 1:9-10). Many times theological disputes go awry partly because of spiritual immaturity. This work of the Spirit is not a new revelation, but confirms revelation already given. We learn to see the truth of the Word as applied to us, instead of rationalizing sin away or distorting facts for our own interests. This maturity has a social aspect. As the Church we are growing up into Christ (Eph. 4:13-16). This is neither "groupthink" nor independent thought, but thinking and working together as a team, suffering and rejoicing together.
6.09.2015
1 Kings 1-2
David is an old king. His son Adonijah tries to take the throne. (David never restrained him as he should have.) Nathan arranges to rouse David to make clear to the kingdom that Solomon is the next king, while Adonijah feasts with his conspirators. They all scatter, and Adonijah pleads for his life at the altar before the ark. Solomon grants it.
David charges Solomon to walk in God's ways. He tells him of unfinished justice he couldn't bring. David dies - he was king for 40 years.
Adonijah asks (through Bathsheba) for the woman who attended David. He is still manipulating to get the throne. Solomon sees through it and executes him. He exiles the priest who supported Adonijah, and kills Joab at the altar. He confines Shimei (the guy who cursed David as he fled Absalom) to Jerusalem, and kills him when he violates it.
How this is about Jesus
His throne is established at the plan of His Father, and by His triumph over self-seeking rivals and subjects.
Application
There are times to not show mercy, in order to rule your heart or house or a kingdom well.
Being soft on sin in your heart will trip you up in other parts of your life.
Being soft on the wicked is a cruelty to the rest of the family, or the nation.
It often takes a new generation, or a big change in circumstance, to move from tolerating sin as a group (family or nation or congregation) to eradicating it.
John 18
After praying, probably near or in the temple, they leave the city, cross the Kidron valley, returning to Olive Mountain and an olive grove (and press?) named Gethsemane where they often go. Judas knows the place and leads temple guards there to arrest Him. Jesus' words show His power to resist arrest. See 2 Kings 1:9-16 for a similar event. Jesus does this to protect and free the disciples. Peter starts to fight, but Jesus stops him.
He is arrested and taken to Caiaphas. Peter and John follow a ways away. John knows the courtyard servants and can get in - he gets Peter in, too, but Peter denies knowing Jesus to the girl keeping the door.
When they question Jesus, He asks why they do it, revealing their sinful motives. They resort to violence and appeal to rank.
Peter denies Jesus twice more and then a rooster crows.
The Sanhedrin take Him to Pilate for the death sentence, which they aren't allowed to give. They have a hard time convincing him Jesus is worthy of death. Jesus says He is a king, but not of an earthly kingdom that will fight him. All truth leads to Him, but Pilate's cynicism and despair keeps the truth far from him.
He declares Jesus innocent, and offers to release Him or Barabbas, an assassin or terrorist. They ask for Barabbas! They would rather have to deal with a zealot who fights them as much as Rome, than have to deal with Jesus.
Application
Jesus shows that He has power to stop His arrest, but then lets them. In the same way, He has power to end any of our difficulties immediately, but there is a greater purpose for them. Even in the midst of such difficulties, He is truly protecting us.
There are moments we like Peter will be "cool-shamed:" offered a spot with the cool and with-it people in exchange for denying we follow Jesus or holding to the truth. "You're not one of those weirdos who believes x, are you?" What will you say?
What are you using right now as an excuse to not deal with Jesus' demands on your life? What other good cause is occupying your time and energy so much that it replaces your loyalty to Jesus? For many Jews, it was Barabbas' pursuit of political liberty from oppressors.
He is arrested and taken to Caiaphas. Peter and John follow a ways away. John knows the courtyard servants and can get in - he gets Peter in, too, but Peter denies knowing Jesus to the girl keeping the door.
When they question Jesus, He asks why they do it, revealing their sinful motives. They resort to violence and appeal to rank.
Peter denies Jesus twice more and then a rooster crows.
The Sanhedrin take Him to Pilate for the death sentence, which they aren't allowed to give. They have a hard time convincing him Jesus is worthy of death. Jesus says He is a king, but not of an earthly kingdom that will fight him. All truth leads to Him, but Pilate's cynicism and despair keeps the truth far from him.
He declares Jesus innocent, and offers to release Him or Barabbas, an assassin or terrorist. They ask for Barabbas! They would rather have to deal with a zealot who fights them as much as Rome, than have to deal with Jesus.
Application
Jesus shows that He has power to stop His arrest, but then lets them. In the same way, He has power to end any of our difficulties immediately, but there is a greater purpose for them. Even in the midst of such difficulties, He is truly protecting us.
There are moments we like Peter will be "cool-shamed:" offered a spot with the cool and with-it people in exchange for denying we follow Jesus or holding to the truth. "You're not one of those weirdos who believes x, are you?" What will you say?
What are you using right now as an excuse to not deal with Jesus' demands on your life? What other good cause is occupying your time and energy so much that it replaces your loyalty to Jesus? For many Jews, it was Barabbas' pursuit of political liberty from oppressors.
Proverbs 5-9
5
The forbidden woman looks smooth and sweet, but she leads to bitterness and death.
Don't take that way.
Be satisfied and enraptured (intoxicated, actually!) with your own wife.
6
Being in debt is an urgent and desperate situation. Get out and run away from it like a gazelle from a predator.
Look to the ant for how to be diligent in your work.
God hates deception, pride, violence and discord.
Your parents' way will protect you from getting burned and disgraced by immoral women.
7
My wisdom will protect you. I've seen young men taken in by the sensual temptation women can offer. It destroys them like animals to the slaughter. Many victims fall to them.
8
Wisdom calls out for the simple to learn.
Wisdom is straight, valuable, hates evil, leads kings, and brings wealth, righteousness, and justice.
I, wisdom, was with Yahweh at the beginning. When He made the earth He used Me.
If you find and follow Me, wisdom, you avoid injury, but will be blessed with life and God's favor.
9
Wisdom sets a rich feast and invites you to dine. But it's hard to give fools wisdom.
Folly is calling out for guests in her house, too. But it's the house of death and hell.
How this is about Jesus
5 - He urges the adulteress to sin no more, and everyone to looking to lust after a woman.
6 - He rescues us from our debts with sacrificial diligence. He worked hard as a builder/carpenter.
8 - Wisdom personified, beginning in verse 22, could also be Jesus talking. The Father delighted in the Son since the foundation of the world (vs. 30). The Son is begotten by the Father from eternity (vs. 22 "possessed" means got, originated or acquired).
The forbidden woman looks smooth and sweet, but she leads to bitterness and death.
Don't take that way.
Be satisfied and enraptured (intoxicated, actually!) with your own wife.
6
Being in debt is an urgent and desperate situation. Get out and run away from it like a gazelle from a predator.
Look to the ant for how to be diligent in your work.
God hates deception, pride, violence and discord.
Your parents' way will protect you from getting burned and disgraced by immoral women.
7
My wisdom will protect you. I've seen young men taken in by the sensual temptation women can offer. It destroys them like animals to the slaughter. Many victims fall to them.
8
Wisdom calls out for the simple to learn.
Wisdom is straight, valuable, hates evil, leads kings, and brings wealth, righteousness, and justice.
I, wisdom, was with Yahweh at the beginning. When He made the earth He used Me.
If you find and follow Me, wisdom, you avoid injury, but will be blessed with life and God's favor.
9
Wisdom sets a rich feast and invites you to dine. But it's hard to give fools wisdom.
Folly is calling out for guests in her house, too. But it's the house of death and hell.
How this is about Jesus
5 - He urges the adulteress to sin no more, and everyone to looking to lust after a woman.
6 - He rescues us from our debts with sacrificial diligence. He worked hard as a builder/carpenter.
8 - Wisdom personified, beginning in verse 22, could also be Jesus talking. The Father delighted in the Son since the foundation of the world (vs. 30). The Son is begotten by the Father from eternity (vs. 22 "possessed" means got, originated or acquired).
6.08.2015
Psalm 143-145
143
Have mercy. Don't give me what I deserve or I'm doomed.
The enemy pursues, but I remember what You have done before.
Show me the way to go, leading me by Your Spirit.
144
Thank You for training me to fight well and effectively against my enemies!
Fight for me, and I will sing to You.
May our flocks and children thrive.
145
The enemy pursues, but I remember what You have done before.
Show me the way to go, leading me by Your Spirit.
144
Thank You for training me to fight well and effectively against my enemies!
Fight for me, and I will sing to You.
May our flocks and children thrive.
145
One generation will tell the next of Your greatness.
God is gracious, and all His works praise Him.
All His creatures are fed, saved and preserved by Him.
How this is about Jesus
How this is about Jesus
143 - He was led by the Spirit (Matthew 4:1).
144 - He was equipped for spiritual warfare, and brings prosperity.
145 - He was given God's everlasting kingdom (vs. 13).
Psalm 144:15
Psalm 144:15
"Blessed are the people whose God is the Lord!"
Psalm 145:4
"One generation shall commend your works to another."
6.07.2015
John 17
Jesus prays to the Father:
It's time. Glorify Me and I will glorify You. Give Your people life, to know Us.
I have shown You to them, and I pray for them.
Let them be one, and protect them as they remain in the world and I come to You.
They are not of the world, but are sanctified by Your Word of truth.
I pray not just for these disciples here now, but for all Your people to come, that they be united and have glorious fellowship with Us.
Application
This is a very important passage - the Son talking to the Father about what He wants for us:
- Life in Him
- Knowledge of God
- Sanctification by the Word, protected from corruption of the world
- Unity together
- Sharing fellowship and glory with the Trinity
Psalm 139-141
139
You know everything about me, Lord, and You are anywhere I could go.
You knit me together when I was still in the womb, and knew all my future days then, already.
I hate the malicious and wicked - destroy them!
Search me for any grievous way and lead me in Your way.
140
Deliver me from violent men - don't let them have their way with me!
Overwhelm them with mischief, trouble, fire and evil.
You will bring justice and let the righteous dwell with You.
141
Hear me when I call to You.
Protect my speech and my heart from evil. Let the righteous rebuke me.
They've set traps for me again, but I trust in You. Trap them while I go free.
How this is about Jesus
139 - He is known completely by the Father - they are one, and draw us into Their perfect fellowship.
140 - He was brought to the Father to dwell and reign with Him forever, as before the Incarnation.
141 - He was trapped by the wicked and crucified so that we could go free.
You knit me together when I was still in the womb, and knew all my future days then, already.
I hate the malicious and wicked - destroy them!
Search me for any grievous way and lead me in Your way.
140
Deliver me from violent men - don't let them have their way with me!
Overwhelm them with mischief, trouble, fire and evil.
You will bring justice and let the righteous dwell with You.
141
Hear me when I call to You.
Protect my speech and my heart from evil. Let the righteous rebuke me.
They've set traps for me again, but I trust in You. Trap them while I go free.
How this is about Jesus
139 - He is known completely by the Father - they are one, and draw us into Their perfect fellowship.
140 - He was brought to the Father to dwell and reign with Him forever, as before the Incarnation.
141 - He was trapped by the wicked and crucified so that we could go free.
Praying at Meals / Anger / Same-sex in Bible
Don't bless the food. Remembering why we pray before we eat.
Anger needs correction, especially in conservative churches.
"there is a reason why angry men often seek out conservative churches. You want to be able reject 'softness....' Conservative standards are often abused by hypocrites in order to provide a scriptural veneer for old-fashioned bullying."
Tim Keller tears apart (nicely) the main pro-homosexuality arguments.
Excellent article. Keller has been criticized by conservatives for being too soft on this issue, and maybe even compromising. Hard for that to stick, reading this.
Anger needs correction, especially in conservative churches.
"there is a reason why angry men often seek out conservative churches. You want to be able reject 'softness....' Conservative standards are often abused by hypocrites in order to provide a scriptural veneer for old-fashioned bullying."
Tim Keller tears apart (nicely) the main pro-homosexuality arguments.
Excellent article. Keller has been criticized by conservatives for being too soft on this issue, and maybe even compromising. Hard for that to stick, reading this.
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